How Gina's next movie can be even better

[Kirt]

I really like Haywire and will be doing more than one viewing.  But I think Gina has a lot more potential.  To start with, the Mallory Kane character is worth a whole series of sequels.  And here are some suggestions.  First, show off her body more.  If you're going to get an R rating anyway, might as well have some gratuitous nudity.  Have her beat up a really big brutal looking villain.  The guys she beat up so far are too ordinary looking.  Maybe Brock Lesnar is available for an onscreen muscle villain.  Also have her beat up a female villain.  O course you need to get an actress who is bigger than she is, villainous, but also beautiful.  I have to admit I don't have anyone particularly in mind for that role.  Any suggestions?  Finally, tie the plot more to real world events.  One of the problems with the TV series Alias was that it was too ingrown and abstract.  It may be true that spies and assassins (like lawyers) mainly make work for each other, but some real world connection makes for more audience appeal.  Finally (in a non-Mallory Kane movie), Gina should play a ruthless villainess.  I bet she would be terrifying in such a role.

[jr]

Nice ideas but what I noticed the most about Gina in Haywire was her acting when she wasn't speaking. She has a way of moving her eyes and body in such a way that I see her playing roles with very little speaking parts (as she had with Mallory).

As cool as it would be to see Gina as Wonder Woman....I'd hate to see her be typecast into superhero roles. More "original" stories and characters please! 

First, show off her body more.  If you're going to get an R rating anyway, might as well have some gratuitous nudity.

Please no...this isn't necessary.

[p0d135]

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First, show off her body more.  If you're going to get an R rating anyway, might as well have some gratuitous nudity.

Please no...this isn't necessary.

yeah. She's a warrior, a tease or glimpse of such from her is hotter than full-on stuff from women who are built and look similiar.

[jr]

yeah. She's a warrior, a tease or glimpse of such from her is hotter than full-on stuff from women who are built and look similiar.

True but I mainly feel this way because I feel Gina could do great things without EVER having to do any kind of nudity whatsoever. Yes shes gorgeous, has an amazing body etc. etc. but shes all about being herself and with her recently saying she doesn't really believe in "sex sells" anymore...any kind of nude scene (or Playboy) would go completely against that.

And I'd just hate to see people going "Oh of course Gina went nude, it's the only way people will see the movie" or something like that :[
I've just never wanted to see Gina go nude to potentially further her career (whether it was in MMA or now in films).

[Kirt]

Hmmm.  Have to admit I'm a little surprised at the resistance to Gina doing a nude scene.  Is there any room for compromise here?  Gina has shown her body off more in weigh-ins and in the ring than in Haywire.  In the Laura Croft movies, Angelina Jolie showed herself off very nicely in bikinis and body suits and managed to get off with a PG-13 rating for those movies.

[p0d135]

to be specific, I also meant no nudity. There are rare & few instances when that is legit called for.

I can compromise so long as the non-nude/body form/suggestive type scene is done well and her as a strong, capable woman is more than represented.

... but shes all about being herself and with her recently saying she doesn't really believe in "sex sells" anymore...

you got the link? she pretty much maintains that she embraces a sexy side of who she is/can be, right?

[jr]

to be specific, I also meant no nudity. There are rare & few instances when that is legit called for.

I can compromise so long as the non-nude/body form/suggestive type scene is done well and her as a strong, capable woman is more than represented.

... but shes all about being herself and with her recently saying she doesn't really believe in "sex sells" anymore...

you got the link? she pretty much maintains that she embraces a sexy side of who she is/can be, right?

Agreed. But rarely is nudity or a sex scene even warranted in most films (unless of course the movie is based on that subject).
For instance
*POTENTIAL HAYWIRE SPOILER*
If the scene with Channing had gone any further than it did it would have been completely unnecessary. The point was made with the belt removal and kissing. Also if Steven had decided to show Gina when she showers/cleans up later in the movie it would have been completely unnecessary.
*POTENTIAL HAYWIRE SPOILER*

I may have misinterpreted what she said but she mentions it in the interview with Ariel something along the lines of "I feel we are moving past 'sex sells'"
And she goes more indepth with it in this interview:
http://tucsoncitizen.com/usa-today-sports/2012/01/16/gina-carano-undecided-on-return-to-mma/

But you also recently said in an interview that you hope that someday, looks and sexuality shouldn’t matter. Why shouldn’t it matter?
I think everybody has their gifts. Some people were gifted in the looks department. But other people were gifted in a kind heart or other people were gifted in extreme athleticism. Whatever you’ve been gifted in, I think that in itself can be beautiful. Sometimes comedy — somebody being hilarious can make them beautiful.

I think that if you just focus on not being anything other than yourself and just hone in on what you’ve been gifted with, you can always improve the other things around you. You can always improve the other things that you weren’t gifted on. That’s all that we need to really focus on.

How realistic is it to expect, not just MMA fans, but sports fans, in general, to stop paying attention to that aspect of things?
In order for people to stop paying attention to that kind of thing, the attractive people would have to stop taking beautiful pictures and stop feeling good about themselves, and I don’t think that’s correct either.

I think if you’re a beautiful female and you want to feel sexy, then you should by all means feel sexy and be beautiful. If that’s what we were gifted with, then of course. Why should it be wrong for a person to appreciate a God-given beauty that they were given?

I think it’s going to be the difference in how people start looking at things. Like, yes, that’s a very attractive female, and she has these good things about her. And over here, that’s an extremely athletic female, and she’s got these good things about her.

There’s always things that you can look at and be positive about, I guess, instead of just putting it all off on “Sex sells.

I'm afraid if Gina did a playboy shoot or some nude scene in a film then people wouldn't be able to look past that. All you hear about anyway (especially people who don't know about her MMA past) is about how hot she is. Only the fans who know her better (us) know what an amazing person she truly is.

I'm all for Gina being sexy and showing her body (example being the GQ photoshoot)...as long as it is tasteful and necessary to the storyline I guess it would be OK but those situations are just so very rare. And I hope she never does Playboy. They photoshop the women so much they look terrible and I don't know of any actress whose career benefited from doing a Playboy shoot.

(I type too much.)

[Kirt]

It seems obvious from the quotes from Gina above that she doesn't see anything wrong with feeling, looking, or being sexy; she just makes the point that those are not the only gifts a person might have.  I wouldn't favor her doing a Playboy shoot because I don't like Playboy, but I don't think it would damage her career.  It certainly did not hurt dance champion Karina Smirnoff.  But my theme was how future movies could be made better vehicles for her and a magazine shoot would not be relevant to that.

I don't agree that nothing should go in a movie that is not "necessary".  Movies aim to entertain and a gratuitios shower scene for example can entertain even if it's not necessary to advance the plot or the theme.  As far as some people not being able to see beyond Gina's hotness, so what?  The first thing most guys will notice about a girl (and vice versa) is whether or not she/he is hot.  It shouldn't be the last thing, but God did give the sexes mutual attraction for a reason.  If someone doesn't see beyond Gina's hotness and goes to her movies just for that, it still builds her audience without hurting any of us who appreciate her many other fine qualities.

[p0d135]

thnx, for the quote, jr. reaffirmed what I remember she said.

[Director Isaac Belot]

NO NUDITY PLEASE,

the great thing about Gina is we know how strong and deep she is. And although she's very tough she's a real lady as well. The thing I liked about Haywire is that they kept her dignity and not made her a sex symbol, because she's not. She's not a whore. If she does that she will become so cheap.

So NO NUDITY

[Kirt]

So anybody who does nudity is a "whore"?  Wow - there goes millenia of the world's greatest art!

[Kirt]

Do a few action movies - there are a lot of different types of those and she could play many different roles, including a villainess.  Schwartzenegger made his mark as the bad Terminator before he got around to playing the good one.  But I also could see Gina in a romantic comedy, a drama (including period pieces) or a horror flick.  I think she has great potential as an actress.  She should also consider related marketing - anything from T-shirts to video games to workout videos and books.  (If she's already done some of these, please post a link to where they can be obtained.)

[Phoenix]

Here's a video game Gina was involved in:
http://www.amazon.com/Command-Conquer-Red-Alert-Xbox-360/dp/B001AZ7RJ6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1327734293&sr=8-4

[jr]

Great points Kirt. I'll stand by my feelings that I'd rather Gina not have to do any kind of nude scene(s) but it's not like our opinions will decide whether she does it or not. 

And yeah I don't think a woman being nude in a film or magazine automatically makes her a "whore."

anyone else think she should next attempt no more than the limited acting ranged action movies that the top critics already said she has the chops for?  (refer. Ebert : "fact is, within limited range..she's good." Roeper: "think The Rock, only way cuter." etc. Does she risk reaching higher to expand her options greatly and dismiss the pigeon-hole comparisons, or establish to big audience dollars what she did in Haywire w/ vastly increased improvement?

She should definitely stick to action movies for the time being, she has acknowledged that that is the kind of acting/physicality that she can provide. I feel she could definitely move on to more diverse roles (I truly feel her acting was quite good in Haywire and I tried to be as non-bias as I could watching the film) in the future whether it is comedy (she claims to be a very goofy person) or romance. Again though it comes down to opinion, cause I'd hate to see her "stuck" doing action films and be nothing more than a female version of Arnold or Steven Segal for instance.

[Kirt]

Thanks for the tip, Angelique.  I'm not a video gamer myself, but this is the kind of tie-in marketing Gina should have more of.  I see where her home site is currently being reconstructed and cannot be accessed.  I hope that when it comes back up, she will have an on-line store with a lot of product.